Podcast 115: The Rest, Tempo, Pump Work Roundtable – Mike Israetel & Menno Henselmans


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The Rest, Tempo, Pump Work Roundtable:

Dr. Mike Israetel and Menno Henselmans get into a discussion about the general principles and understanding of rest times, lifting tempo & pump work for hypertrophy. Talking about things such as optimal rest times & lifting tempo and ways to go about pump work and how to properly apply these variables for optimal hypertrophic outcomes.


Dr. Mike Israetel was a professor of Exercise Science at Temple University, and University of Central Missouri, where he taught Exercise Physiology, Personal Training, and Advanced Programming for sports and fitness.  Mike has coached numerous powerlifters, weightlifters, bodybuilders, and other individuals in both diet and weight training.

Originally from Moscow, Russia, Mike is was a competitive powerlifter,and now bodybuilder, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu grappler. Most time spent now on podcasts, renaissance periodisation (RP+), ebooks, facebook, travelling doing cool seminars.


Menno Henselmans is an online physique coach, fitness model and scientific author.

He is a former business consultant who specialized in advanced statistical data analysis but traded that for what he’s truly passionate about: helping serious trainees attain their ideal physique. His background in science and statistics helped him to develop his Bayesian Bodybuilding method.

Menno has published academic papers, is a speaker at some of the world’s biggest fitness events and is a guest contributor to Alan Aragon’s Research Review.


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Time stamps:

  • 00:42 Menno starts with talking about rest periods
  • 05:30 Mike adds his opinion on the topic
  • 14:22 Menno responds to Mike’s take on rest periods
  • 17:05 Mike talks about decreased performance independently of rest times
  • 21:15 Mike further elaborates and talks about a limit of performance decrease for an exercise
  • 23:08 Menno first adds something to Mike’s stated approach & continuous with touching on the topic regarding tempo
  • 28:13 Mike comments on the points being made by Menno
  • 31:06 Mike shares his thoughts on variations and techniques such as pausing
  • 33:58 Menno appends on pauses for hypertrophy
  • 37:10 Mike expands on the topic and the potential downsides
  • 39:47 Menno moves on to talking about training with bands
  • 42:17 Mike gives his slightly different view on using bands
  • 45:50 Mike responds to Steve’s question about potential benefits and practical applications of using bands
  • 47:36 Menno further goes into the topic of using bands
  • 50:19 Additionally, Mike elaborates his views on bands
  • 53:04 Mike continuous with a short summary and how people easily get caught up with minute details
  • 55:04 Menno follows up with speaking about “overcueing”
  • 57:15 Mike brings up the point about posture obsession
  • 1:00:31 Mike shares his thoughts on the fallacy of “Perfect Posture”
  • 1:04:12 Menno talks about perfect form and momentum
  • 1:07:16 Menno goes back to talking about the illusion of “Perfect Posture”

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